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Originally Posted by Carpe Mortem
Thanks dude, except I would never refer to any doom, or a good number of black metal or thrash bands, as extreme metal. To expand on the point I was trying to make then forgot about... the word extreme, to me, means overbearingly intense **** thats fast and obnoxious s ****. That's why I don't fully understand the definition, like who the hell ever has referred to My Dying Bride as extreme metal? Or Judas Priest? I mean these are bands you could chill around at home listening to.
So extreme metal is fast, pounding, loud and in your face music IMO. It seems to me the actual definition is in reference to a non-mainstream production value, considering the chill and bearable subgenres it associated with, and I disagree with that definition. Production cannot be referred to as extreme or not extreme, I just personally think that's really lame.
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I think the best way to look at extreme metal as a category is as an umbrella term for the styles of metal, beginning in the 80s, where metal ceased being a subgenre if rock and started to be its own entity, things like death metal, black metal, grindcore. It's the branch of the metal family tree that doesn't contain things like traditional metal, NWOBHM, glam, power metal, etc. Traditional doom isn't extreme metal but later types of doom are, like drone doom.