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Old 05-25-2014, 08:41 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Default Lyrics, Clang Groups and Supermarkets

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I pretty much agree with Trollheart, especially the bit in bold:-

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Originally Posted by Trollheart View Post
Unlike it would seem everyone else here I am a big fan of lyrics. I used to get albums when I was younger and play them over and over until I had all the lyrics to all the songs (way way before the internet made it so easy). It helps me to be able to sing (really badly) along with the songs when they play. Even now, if I hear a bad lyric or even an out-of-place one in a song it won't ruin it for me, but it will give me less pleasure than it would had it been properly constructed.
Like other posters, I`m attracted by the the overall sound of the music first, but if lyrics are an integral part of the song I expect them to have some interest or merit. If I like the song, the lyrics will inevitably work their way into my head, so I want the singer to take take some responsiblilty for the fact that his words are going to be heard over and over again. I like unusual topics and images - and honesty. I love to hear places and countries mentioned in songs, but I find that the more explicit a story song is, the quicker I get bored with it. That`s why I enjoy Ode To Billie Joe more than Hurricane.
At the other extreme, I`m happy with stream-of-consciousness stuff too, as well as artists who make a bold, stylish declaration that the words aren`t important; (For example Faust repeatedly insisting, Daddy, take the banana.Tomorrow is Sunday. )

Clang Groups:-

Ever tried the word association game, where you sit in a circle and take turns saying the first word that comes to you? It can be quite fun if you keep it fast and thoughtless. Investigators have discovered that adults are prompted by the concept of the last word they hear, so a typical sequence might go: Cat -Dog! - Elephant! -Africa!
Children, on the other hand, are more likely to focus on word sounds and might come up with: Cat -Hat! - Hot! - Pot!
Because of the obvious similarity in sound, words like cat, hat, hot, pot are called a clang group, and one thing that I really don`t like are lyricists who build their lyrics around such obvious rhymes.

Supermarkets:-

I once had such a crush on a co-worker that I dreamed quite innocently of her one night; the two of us were shopping in my local Sainsbury`s (supermarket), queuing up to buy ham but lost in animated conversation with each other. The point being that in the right company even the dullest things in life can be enhanced and turned into fun, and since dreaming of that happy moment, I sometimes wonder about musicians. Trollheart again:-

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I think a song, or album, is an opportunity for the artiste to share his her or their point of view, let us inside their heads and hearts, and if they don't do this, and do it properly, I consider it a chance wasted. I think you can understand a lot more about an artiste if you listen to their lyrics, although of course some like Mike Oldfield, Vangelis, Carbon Based Lifeforms etc can get their music across perfectly well without the benefit of lyrics. That, though, is an entirely different story.
As he says, a decent songwriter gives us an idea of their way of thinking, and I occassionally wonder how it would be to stroll around a supermarket with these people. Some, but not all, of my favourite lyricists pass the supermarket test; I imagine Syd Barratt and Gillian Welch would be good company when you`re buying groceries; they`d be low-key but quirky, making off-beat, perceptive observations. Some artists come across as more arrogant and critical, and much as I like their songs, I wouldn`t like Dylan or Zappa to be pushing my trolley!
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