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Old 06-21-2014, 08:19 PM   #394 (permalink)
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scientifically it never stops being just cells. it's an arbitrary line you're trying to draw that doesn't actually exist.

i agree it's the woman's choice and i actually agree with abortion being legal. i'm just ok with humans being killed for the sake of reproductive control. but pro-choicers need to stop playing these silly word games.
Well the point isn't "life" or "cells" (or at least it shouldn't be to anyone who has any useful understanding of what constitutes life), it's consciousness, and the level of consciousness that qualifies as worthy of protection. "Consciousness" itself is a nebulous concept that's based on many different emergent biological processes, and at what level it should be protected is probably just as nebulous, so trying to come up with any kind of hard-and-fast rules concerning it is pretty much impossible. But again, we're dealing with legal issues, which are binary, yes or no, legal or illegal questions, so at some point, you do have to make distinctions that are, at least to some extent, arbitrary. It is what it is.
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