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Old 09-05-2014, 04:48 PM   #136 (permalink)
John Wilkes Booth
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Originally Posted by Josef K View Post
Because I don't think it would be that complicated a process,
you don't think restructuring the economic and political infrastructure would be a complicated process?

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Because when you start saying certain people can't vote, you're opening the door to their oppression because they can't protect themselves and because you've already told everyone they're a lower class of person.
you might have misunderstood me (i was pretty vague). i'm not saying why not let some people vote and not others. i'm saying why do people need to have a say in their government in general? which your next section touches on a bit more..

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Loss of democracy leads to erosion of civil rights (and it is itself erosion of civil rights, but it leads to the loss of rights other than to vote). Democracy can also be a powerful tool for egalitarianism.
so basically democracy is a safe-guard against tyranny. that is basically how i have always thought about it as well. but this assumes that any non-democratic government will by definition act in a tyrannical way.

what if there were a state that had the goals which were determined with the state's population's best interests in mind but wasn't obliged to incessantly campaign for public approval in their attempts to achieve those goals? do you think democracy might slow us down?

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You're not talking about communism or socialism. Communism is by definition a stateless society, so wages wouldn't be set by the government, because there would be no government.
in theory... but not in the real world.
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