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Originally Posted by Josef K
I mean I've heard about some businesses who are becoming co-ops on their own. It would be a nasty political fight, but you could do it gradually - start with incentives, like the government will cover some percentage of health-care costs if businesses do certain things for democracy, then mandate that companies have some employees on their board, and so on.
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don't you think there is a difference between having a couple co-op's emerge from the market and having a full fledged socialist economy?
if incentives will work then why is it so unlikely that you will see a socialist govt in your lifetime?
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Without democracy, there's no way to hold them accountable. You can tell me that in the hypothetical they're totally benevolent and great people, but that isn't very useful because the reason why we need democracy is we can't just trust that our leaders have our best interests in mind.
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so you're willing to entertain hypothetical versions of socialism but not hypothetical versions of totalitarianism?
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I mean there's never been communism in the real world, and there probably won't be in the foreseeable future on any decent-sized scale (you could count kibbutzes or something, I guess).
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