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Originally Posted by CoNtrivedNiHilism
DISCLAIMER: I saw the Bush thread made back in 2009, but this isn't a Bush topic only so figured I'd just open its own thread.
So, essentially I don't want this to be so much a Gavin vs Kurt debate/and or discussion, so much as I just want this to be something to more or less talk about two very charismatic frontmen from an era in music that has a lot of nostalgia, or maybe a time in music that some of us here miss, as there were some great music or bands in general from that time of grunge music. But it likely will become just that, Gavin vs Kurt...
My opinion has always been that Gavin was the better frontman; better songwriter, had better control of his voice and better range, wasn't as sloppy of a guitar player, always seemed to have a more appealing stage presence in comparison to Kurt. Kurt was a damaged guy, had issues. To a lot of people that makes for a more interesting frontman. Under all that was just a mediocre guitar player, songwriter, singer, so on and so forth. I like Kurt, always have. But I've just never understood why people think he is so great. I've struggled with this since the first time I heard both bands and began forming my opinions on the two. But I always went back to who as a frontman I thought was better, Gavin or Kurt. And I always say it is Gavin.
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Is this some kind of joke? Because Bush are one of the worst bands to have ever come out of the UK. Calling them a second rate Nirvana rip-off is being too kind really, as I've always seen them worse than that.
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As a last thought. Bush wasn't this Nirvana rip off band that so many people thought they were. Nirvana wasn't the first grunge band, they were just the first to make it big and get critical acclaim. So it is easy for anyone to claim that any band that made it big after them that played the some genre of music, was a copycat band.
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Only the most casual music listener would reach the above conclusion. A large number of grunge bands sounded quite different to one another. Bush are one of the few to sound like Nirvana.