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Originally Posted by DriveYourCarDownToTheSea
BTW, minimalism has nothing to do with postmodernism. Some postmodern music is minimalist, but postmodern music, by definition, is agnostic about being minimalist or not. And even if rap was postmodern, does not mean it isn't a regression. A lot of postmodern stuff (in music and elsewhere) has been a deliberate regression. Postmodern architecture is perhaps the best-known example: In postmodernism many building were designed to deliberately evoke buildings of 100, 200 years ago. That is a regression; it is doing something that was already done in the past.
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I wasn't saying that minimalism is what makes it postmodern, I was responding to your claim that minimalism is somehow "primitive". What makes it postmodern is the way it deconstructs popular music via things like sampling and turning the medium (records) into an instrument.
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Originally Posted by DriveYourCarDownToTheSea
Well then let's get even more minimalist and eliminate the beat, too. Already got rid of the melody with rap, let's see what else we can pare off. No melody, no beat - just some guy speaking lyrics.
Oh wait - that would be called "a poetry recital."
At some point it ceases to become music.
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We didn't get rid of the melody with rap, the vocals were simply turned into a percussion instrument. There is still melody in most hip hop songs, it's just not coming from the vocalist.