Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

i can concede that i should be fired but i still don't want to be fired. but you have to keep in mind different places have different standards. the last place i worked for was another 12 hour shift mundane job and people fell asleep there all the time. if they fired everyone who did they would basically end up ****ing their own business up.

edit - sort of reminds me of what a coworker told me about this other factory job that is around here. basically everybody who works there is on either coke or meth. the bosses basically know about it but look the other way because when normal sober people get hired onto that job they usually wash out after about 3 days then quit. if there is an accident then they drug test you and blame it on the drugs and fire you to avoid liability. you would be surprised at the kind of **** bosses will look the other way for when it comes to these ****ty temp jobs.