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Old 12-27-2014, 02:22 AM   #16 (permalink)
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"Beautiful Anger" almost ties with "Variable 55" as my favorite Weekend Astronauts song.

As you probably already know from making "Beautiful Anger," the contrast and interplay between the beautiful classical piano/strings and the intricate, "angry" drum beats make the song fascinating to hear.

I've listened to the piece several times to trace the overall composition and notice all the different sounds. Each time I find something new in the song to concentrate on, but concentrating on one aspect is difficult because quickly some new sound is introduced.

I like the way the song begins and ends with the same piano passage. The passage's somber ending first transitions into the frenzy of the drums (a great moment) and then later serves satisfyingly as the actual end to the song. I also like how portions of the piano passage appear throughout the piece. I like how the notes of the percussion/bass beats relate to the piano tune.

I especially like a midway point in the song where there are well-spaced piano chords with an overlay of strings and drums, all meshed together.

The song has power as well as subtlety, which I appreciate, and it seems easier to listen to than some of the other breakcore I've heard (Igorrr) because it doesn't include *as* many odd elements. Your song leans quite heavily toward a pure classical sound, which I enjoy, but I like the funky percussion passages just as much.

The only thing I might change with the song would be to use real string instruments, if you had them, because I'm a purist when it comes to strings and like their less even sound. But I'm just quibbling, because the string sounds in the song are very realistic.

"Variable 55"

You haven't discussed this song yet in your thread, but I will anyway because it is my favorite of all the Weekend Astronauts songs you have posted so far, and I want to learn more about how you made the song, and tell you what I like about it (in the hopes of influencing you to make more like it).

"Variable 55" begins with a delicate, almost eerie melody of bell-like notes reminiscent of drops of falling water and so beautiful that it made me want to cry...especially when an undercurrent of lower sounds begins to swell underneath the bell tones.

My favorite moment is around 0:55 when the warm sound of several long, cello-like notes enters, creating a slight sense of resolution at 0:57 before continuing. A really lovely moment, it reminds me of how some classical music pieces contain a very short, unique passage lasting just several seconds that seems especially emotional, memorable, meaningful and beautiful...almost painfully beautiful. For me, that moment in your song is 0:52 through 1:06.

The song then subtly transitions to include lower notes and interesting rasps and clicks that sound very organic, like insects or woodpeckers, and finally the drumming enters, all over-lapping.

Again, each time I listen to the song, I hear something new, which is a great quality in all your songs. It encourages me to listen again and again to discover some new aspect I hadn't noticed before. The changes within the song rivet my attention.

The interesting panning of the sounds, for example, is one intellectual level I liked to consider, such as the panning of the bell-like notes around 3:15. The layering of different passages is another, such as when the cello-like sounds first appear and then reenter the song to help stitch the various parts of the song together into an integral whole.

This song also used an element I don't hear often in music: a noticeable tempo change within a song. The moment at 3:52 when the song slows down is especially intriguing to me, since it sounds like time taking a breath. I love when songs have tempo and time signature changes. This one pause was very surprising, which I like. At first I thought maybe the pause was a song glitch due to my computer, but I hear it every time, so I decided it was intentional. I'd enjoy hearing a song that plays even more with tempo changes to give the feeling that the song is sometimes holding its breath.

I'm curious which elements were sampled and which were original in both songs. I assume you and your fellow musician are doing the guitar work as well as the drumming and are modifying them with the computer to get the sound and speed you want.

I feel both of these songs are excellent because they stir my emotions and have an intricacy level on par with classical music, which makes the songs feel contemplative and meditative. The songs contain a high density of thought, and I can hear and appreciate that.
Thanks for your kind words, and I hope your holidays went well!

I don't usually post on here, but I frequently stalk Freebase, and this thread.

I can't really speak much of Beautiful Anger, as it was Freebase's brainstorm and absolute drive to create something. Maybe he can get on here to discuss it more in the future.

Variable 55 was created a few years ago. Back when I used to use FL Studio. I've since upgraded to Sonar so Freebase and I can exchange projects with ease.

The main bit was majorly a synth from a program called Synplant. At the time, it was a new and exciting thing for me to use. It started with the tingly sound, and then I added some pingy synthesizer sounds that blended together quite well.

I sent the intro to Freebase, and we went back and forth for a few days creating it.

Around the time the "time bend" happens, was a drumming idea. I had a stock beat loop that I glitched using "Gross Beat" with some automation.

In the beat, there was that "vinyl time dip" that you hear. It wasn't intentional at first, but I thought it sounded cool.

Freebase took that sound, with his own beat, and emulated it along with the atmosphere creating an entire time dip that I think sounds fantastic.

For Variable 55, everything you hear, was sampled. There are no instruments involved that were physically played.

As for the title, "Variable 55?"

Well it's quite simple. The original project tempo was 110 BPM. So in order to create things more brooding, we halved some of the sounds to 55 BPM. Hence the song being in a Variable 55 tempo.

You've actually provoked me to look into my old FL Studio project folder, and low and behold, I actually have the original draft of the project!

Of course, a lot of the sounds have been deleted, misplaced, and lost in random browser cleanups, and one hard drive crash, but I've uploaded the main bell part for you to check out.

https://www.mediafire.com/?d3da467vt6v2x2p

Enjoy!

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