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Old 02-18-2015, 12:17 PM   #57 (permalink)
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see, the difference between what you're saying and what i'm saying is you're picturing a world where we rule over robots to make our lives better. i'm picturing a world where robots supersede us and carry the torch
The only way to make that preferable is if the machines have no preference to whether or not we exist or the nature of their actions (i.e. no true artificial intelligence), so even if our autonomy was given over to the machines, we'd still have decided what form their authority would take. And robo-sluts are clearly something we would account for.

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i don't really see any honest difference between pure capitalism and corporate cronyism. even when businesses adopt state coercion as one of their tools of competition. i think if you honestly look at the idea of 'open competition' and bring it to its logical conclusion then these become imaginary lines in the sand with no real substance.

which is all well and good, if you are ideologically partial to that sort of thing. but i don't see it ending well.
I don't see a difference either. Corporations are on a steady path to greater political power, which will eventually lead to a full-fledged de facto corporate oligarchy rather than just the ambiguous, symbiotic, economic/political relationship we now have. I'm just saying that it's inevitable, so I accept the possibility since there doesn't seem to be a better option.

It's not like politicians these days are necessarily any better. Sure we can vote them out of office, but in the meantime their incompetence and inability to accomplish anything due to partisan nonsense makes them next to useless, and the situation only seems to be getting worse. Maybe our corporate overlords won't be as subject to the wishes of the public, but at least they might be competent enough to offset the loss in democratic power.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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