Originally Posted by Black Francis

Im a little confused by the toilet circuit term, do you mean that they are still doing ****ty gigs?

The stranglers are one of my fav groups and im glad to hear they've sold so many albums but they never quite reached the popularity bands like the clash did.

Ive seen more recent YT vids of them playing in ****ty gigs but it doesn't bother me much they never made it big cause i don't feel that's what the group was all about.

I wish their contribution to the genre was more well known but other than that , i think they've had a decent career and they are where they should be, no tragedy here.