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Originally Posted by Soulflower
IMO your definition of innnovative implies innovation takes from something already established when something that is innovative is its OWN concept because its original. It doesn't take from anything
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fine. then straigh outta compton isn't innovative because it was influenced by all sorts of previous hip hop. at the very least they didn't invent rap music so they took that from someone else thus not innovative. hell, hip hop in general isn't innovative cause it's always taken samples from older music to make the beats, if you want to use that standard.
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The Chronic is not a "different" type of rap.
It IS gangsta rap period.
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it's g-funk
the chronic is gangsta rap. so is kool g rap. so is nwa. so is mobb deep. all 4 artists have completely different styles from one another and can't be lumped together by any criteria other than the fact that they all happen to feature lyrics which talk about the criminal lifestyle. who's to say that is the defining quality and not the production style or other stylistic elements of the music that don't specifically relate to the lyrical content?
even with the lyrical content rap was innovated drastically over the period of time from the late 80's to the late 90's. but i'm just pointing out that you can't pick one arbitrary criteria and say that so long as that still applies there's nothing new being presented.