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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth
why is bragging about being rich less vain/fake than bragging about being tough? what's wrong with asserting masculinity as a virtue these days?
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I think views on gender and sexuality have changed massively over the last few years. It's a lot more progressive now. Bragging about being rich is directly associated with bragging about being successful, which is always going to exist. Selling all those records, making that much of an impact - they're achievements worth bragging about. Being a tough male is not.
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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth
but you say you don't like macho posturing
do you see any macho posturing in this song?
and if so then why do you like it when they go hard?
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Dude, I like hip-hop. I enjoy things for more than just their lyrical content, and if I disregarded everything that featured macho bull**** I'd be disregarding loads of good stuff. You can enjoy something while still identifying it as problematic.
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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth
see, as an approach to life in general i think it is better to rise above the instinctual obsession with trying to be alpha and all that ****. not necessarily squash it entirely cause it still serves a sort of function but don't dwell on it or let it
become some sort of identity issue. but in terms of art, i like to see the gladiators boast and clash. that is the true spirit of hip hop to me. trying to remove it just leaves you with an empty shell of the original idea where gladiators still compete but in imo less interesting ways. like they're playing with toy swords instead or something.
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I don't think we'll ever agree on this, if this is really what you think. Music can stray from its original idea. God forbid only listening to rock music that deals with the same subject matter that it did at its conception. I like it when genres evolve and adapt, both musically and socially.
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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls
Not really, but I haven't heard much of his stuff outside his radio hits. If you wanna give me some examples of songs.
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Two of my favourites.