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Originally Posted by Janszoon
Only in the sense that it's descended from it.
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It grew out of Beatdown Hardcore/New York Hardcore and now sounds different, but I think it still fits Punk better than just being a separate rock genre altogether.
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The Menzingers play pop punk but it doesn't sound like the Ramones, buzzcocks or early Undertones. Neither does Morning Glory.