04-20-2015, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah
I dig where you are coming from Janszy, truly I get that side of the argument. But rather I don't think it's giving the state the authority to murder people in cold blood, there is a difference. It's about giving them the authority to say your crimes were so awful, so foul, you are deemed a danger to society and as a punishment for the things you did, in a sane state no less you are sentenced to death. What you did was just too awful to condemn you to a life in prison. Also something that is I don't think anyone really ever mentions is that prisons breed an atmosphere, for domination and torture. On the part of the inmates and on the part of jailers. So you kinda have a ****ty place to be at. A death sentence is almost a humane thing. Because on the prison totem pole say for instances, child killers are really really low, and some of the things I have heard from people I know that have done long stints of time in the creepy man prisons is borderline just as gruesome as what the offender did to the kid in the first place. I don't look a death as an eye for an eye, and to say that is friggin ignorant, it makes people with my stance look like callus uncaring people. No I am not about an eye for an eye, I am about someone paying for what they have done, and sometimes the things people have done to others can't even begin to be repaid even with the ending of the offenders life. I am pro victim and their families, it's not about the offender, and often times we make **** about them when in all actuality it's about the victim of the violent crime, and if you read, and watch tv you find a lot of people that had had horrible things happen to them say the same thing, put he/she to death. Because that is closure, true closure knowing that they aren't allowed any of the luxuries that life has to offer, be it an extra bag of commissary chips or a big house in the suburbs you feel me?
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I understand the anger that victims' families must feel toward the perpetrators and I'm sure if I were in their place my pure emotional response would be that I'd want terrible harm to come to the guilty person, but I don't think anger and vengeance make for good reasons to make serious policy decisions. Ultimately, I think it should be about what benefits society, and I don't think giving the state the power to execute people benefits society.
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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah
I agree with you, also that no we shouldn't put people death without looking at that facts, that is a heavy heavy job for anyone in the justice systems soul. You will always have **** ups situations that shouldn't happen, and the wrong person is put away, or gased. But to me that is simply a case of casual collateral damage. As nasty and terrible as it is, when high profile things like that happen. It should (imo) be looked at as a warning that, hey this kinda thing is serious, and we should keep ourselves in check and not hand the sentence out like it's going out of style. And when something like that happens, there should be major benefits, for the families of the wrongfully accused apologies from the commander and chief, right on down to the last jury member that voted yes. Their story should be shared, and yes a goddamn healthy sized check should be cut from the tax payers money that helped execute the person. It's not going to bring back their loved one, but it will go a long damn way to soothe the hurt to know an entire nation as a whole is sorry for what we put them through. And once that is said and done try like hell to find the real perpetrator.
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I guess that's where you and I just differ. I care much more about keeping innocent people from being wrong executed than I do about wreaking vengeance on guilty people.
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