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Originally Posted by Oriphiel
Are you kidding me? All they did was take Saints Row 2, destroy every character that was even remotely likable (Shaundi gets turned into a generic kidnap-magnet, Pierce loses his personality and quirks, and Gat is removed from the game entirely),
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Shaundi they didn't do so great with, I don't even really remember Pierce being that great in the first place, and they gave us Kinzie, one of the all-time best characters of the series. Did miss Gat though.
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gut all of the humor and replace it with fart and sex jokes,
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It had it's own style of humor and it's own cast of characters, without feeling the need to overcompensate by throwing sex jokes at the player every five seconds, as if to say "OH MY GOD, YOU'RE NAKED, ISN'T THAT FUNNY? LOLOLOLOLOL. OH LOOK, A FLOPPY ***** YOU CAN HIT PEOPLE WITH, ISN'T THAT FUNNY? LOLOLOLOL. Buy all of the DLC."
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The dil
do comment makes me think you get your opinions second hand, as that's one of those things that fan critics zero in on for some reason. I chuckled once at the dil
do bat and then forgot it ever existed, and yet all the people who hated the game just can't get enough of it.
That game had me dying laughing pretty much the whole time, so clearly this is a case of personal taste in humor and not quality.
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rip out all of the good music and replace it with songs that are infinitely more boring and generic,
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All of the SR games have had perfectly fine music. Don't know what you're whining about.
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replace the awesome gangs and leaders/lieutenants with forgettable stereotypes,
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I'll give you that, though S.T.A.G. was amazing. And I have love for Matt Miller if for no other reason than the computer simulation mission.
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destroy character customization by lumping all clothing into rigid categories that can't be layered (ala the transition from Morrowind to Skyrim),
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There wasn't really any difference in how they did clothing in 2 and 3. Like, not at all. Perhaps you're having an aneurysm. And the clothing choices were far improved in 3, so suck it.
What I miss is not having to tediously buy each version of each garment separately (which was introduced in 2). The first game's closet system was by far the best.
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take out the second game's shooting mechanics (which were twitchy, but at least worked) and replace it with mechanics that are somehow even more poor and touchy, and all of that's not even mentioning...
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Again, don't know what you're going on about. I never had any problem with the shooting mechanics. Maybe you just suck.
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You know what? **** it. If I don't stop myself here, i'm just going to keep going forever. That's how much ammunition I have against this ****ing horrible game. Saints Row 2 wasn't perfect, but at least it managed to move past it's "GTA clone" roots and have a personality of it's own.
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No, 2
started to have a personality of its own because it became progressively more absurd as each storyline advanced, until you're having a monster truck battle and jumping off a skyscraper onto a helicopter (or however that last mission went). But it was still GTA's ugly kid brother.
The third just upped the ante, as I expected it would given the change in tone in 2.
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And you know what? Everyone, including the developers, knew that Saints Row had lost it's soul. There's a reason why Saints Row 3 sold much worse than Saints Row 2,
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No it didn't, it sold much more. Best source for 2 I can find is Wikipedia, which says 3.5 million, while both Gamespot and IGN confirm that 3 sold well over five million. Way to be provably wrong.
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and why fans consistently rate it as the worst game in the series (right alongside the first game).
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That is bull****. There is no unified SR fanbase. There are the people who prefer the first two games (i.e. the people who should really just go play GTA already) and the others (like me) who love 3 and 4 for their OTT absurdity and toilet humor.
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That's why the fourth game basically backpedaled and reversed everything in three, giving the fans what they want by bringing back Gat, and the old-school version of Shaundi, as well as toning down the in-your-face humor (even though it's probably the most absurd game to date, in terms of premise) and actually having some wit and wordplay every now and then.
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I don't even know how to respond to that. The game was one long, dumb pop culture joke. How it "toned down" I have no idea.