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Originally Posted by The Batlord
Edit: Oh, and about that old Axis and Allies debate, has anyone ever played the spinoffs? There was an updated version of the original that had artillery, destroyers, refined rules, a penalty for if either the Russians or Japanese attacked each other -- to more accurately simulate the realities of their relationship in the war, and I'm sure other things I'm forgetting. There was also an A&A game based on D-Day that was pretty fun.
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My dad and I used to play A&A: Pacific all the time. It's pretty cool. Winning as the Japanese is tough. A&A also made a game called War at Sea, where you collect miniatures of battleships, destroyers, torpedo bombers, etc. and build your own fleet. It wasn't a very good game, but I liked the collectable aspect.