Drownland1:50pm
The Babadook bro
That **** ain't real

Oriphiel1:51pm
?

Drownland1:52pm
It's all in her head

Oriphiel1:53pm
OR IS IT?!?!?!?!

Drownland1:53pm
She was actually crazy all along and the son is starting to notice
The whole movie revolves around him getting older and not being a naive kid anymore

Oriphiel1:53pm
And since she was a children's author, I suppose that explains the pop-up book

Drownland1:54pm
Yes, plus the fact that she holds onto the book after it first scares him

Oriphiel1:54pm
Now, let's talk about the intricacies of Frankenhooker...
=p

Drownland1:54pm
Why not just throw it out right away? I see it as like having a keepsake
I'm gonna write a journal entry on it

Drownland1:55pm
skipped the current DJ.

Oriphiel1:55pm
*rolls eyes*

Drownland1:57pm
It's like a modern Shining, not liking it is a crime against yourself

Drownland1:58pm
decided to skip.

Oriphiel1:58pm
Don't compare it to The Shining.

Drownland1:58pm
It's a lot like the shining

Oriphiel1:58pm
That's like comparing candy to a Thanksgiving feast
The Babadook really doesn't have that much depth to it

Drownland1:58pm
It's not the shining
But it's like the shining

Oriphiel1:59pm
Only in the sense that you decide for yourself whether the evil was real or not

Drownland1:59pm
I didn't think so the first time I saw it, but on subsequent viewings I got a lot of it

Oriphiel1:59pm
Bleh

Drownland1:59pm
What about the boy's unresolved Oedipus complex?
Completely serious

Oriphiel2:00pm
It is resolved
He hides it away in the basement

Drownland2:00pm
skipped the current DJ.

Drownland2:01pm
He tries to bang his mother and kill her because he doesn't have a father figure to attack

Oriphiel2:01pm
Dude, you're making it into something it isn't

Drownland2:01pm
He was a lot more affectionate with her in the beginning

Oriphiel2:01pm
If you look that closely at any movie, you'll find depth

Drownland2:01pm
You're ignoring the character development to be edgy

Oriphiel2:02pm
Every character in a horror movie, by that logic, has insane depth, since they're all ragged and distrustful by the end

Drownland2:03pm
It's pretty true that you can do thtat with pretty much any movie because it's art and people put a lot of work into it
But if you think there's nothing to the babadook when there's clearly a lot put there for you to take in you're just in denial
Not to mention reading into it makes it a lot better imo

Drownland2:03pm
decided to skip.

Oriphiel2:03pm
Or maybe you're in denial, trying desperately to inject more substance into it then there actually is?
Just like the existence of the monster, we'll never know which it is

Drownland2:03pm
And if I am, I don't really care

Oriphiel2:04pm
Bull
You wouldn't be talking about it if you didn't care

Drownland2:05pm
I think that the hints that the film puts forward point more to the psychological element
Well I'm talking about it because I find it interesting, grumpy pants
I get a better experience out of it this way than if I took it as a regular creature feature
So you didn't like anything about the movie?

Drownland2:05pm
skipped the current DJ.

Oriphiel2:05pm
The point of my goofy review was just to say that if a movie is "great" for having subtle themes that are revealed fully upon multiple viewings, wouldn't that make Frankenhooker a masterpiece?

Drownland2:06pm
Not the great acting, the cinematography, the dream sequences, nothing?
I haven't seen it yet, but if it's like the other million movies out there like it you're starting to come off like roscoe

Oriphiel2:07pm
Frankenhooker has great acting, only they were going for comedy rather than drama
=)

Drownland2:07pm
Babadook kept my interest more than any film I've seen in the last say five years

Oriphiel2:07pm
Maybe that says more about you than it does about The Babs?

Drownland2:08pm
Maybe you ignoring it to be cool says more about you than the film

Oriphiel2:08pm
How am I ignoring it?
I correctly identified most of it's themes, didn't I?

Drownland2:09pm
You blatantly said that all of the motifs in the film are bogus
And that all the artsy interpretations are wrong

Oriphiel2:09pm
I didn't say that
I said they were overhyped

Drownland2:09pm
In your little diatribe you did

Oriphiel2:09pm
"It's a solid movie, with a few rough patches"

Drownland2:09pm
I'll watch it again for you sometime, I have to show it to my sister

Drownland2:09pm
decided to skip.

Drownland2:09pm
Best horror film in years really

Oriphiel2:10pm
**** no

Drownland2:11pm
Ja you're right, there was Under the Skin
But that's it
Prove me wrong with some good horror films then
Not your obnoxious b film **** though
Something fresh

Oriphiel2:11pm
Excuse me?
"Obnoxious b film ****"?

Drownland2:11pm
Got any good modern horror films?
Yes

Oriphiel2:11pm
Who's in denial now?

Drownland2:12pm
I've seen enough of them and that's not the type of film I seek out
I'd rather see something that's better done with good acting, smart writing, cinematography, a nice budget is cool too

Oriphiel2:12pm
You're rejecting an entire subgenre just because of a bad impression. Isn't that as bad as me rejecting The Babadook because of my first impression of it being not that great?

Drownland2:12pm
Imagine if you asked me for some good modern bands but didn't want any jazz
That's my request so gimme some recs

Oriphiel2:12pm
Cabin in the Woods

Drownland2:12pm
I liked that one but Babadook>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Oriphiel2:12pm
Why?

Drownland2:13pm
If you want to talk about overrated movies though you just named one and a half

Drownland2:13pm
skipped the current DJ.

Oriphiel2:13pm
Cabin in the Woods had great writing, great acting, a strong theme, and successfully critiqued both Horror movies and the reason for why people create them.

Drownland2:14pm
CITW was fun and campy. Kinda **** actors and a cop out ending imo
Not the revealing of the theme
The very end
I'm just so hot on the babadook

Oriphiel2:14pm
I thought The Babadook has some crap moments. Like when he moans "Babadooook!" just like the ghost from Ju-On. And the goofy ass ending with the worms.

Drownland2:14pm
Remember getting your panties in a bunch when I compared it to the shining?
That's what it was like saying cabin is better

Oriphiel2:15pm
?
The Shining is way better than both of them

Drownland2:15pm
I didn't mind the moaning. What's so awful about it
By that logic Ju On sucks too

Oriphiel2:16pm
It's so cheesy, and had no place in a so called "subtle" movie otherwise free of cheap scares.

Drownland2:16pm
I do like the shining better too
It built the suspense quite well when it was in the room and it did the chant thing

Oriphiel2:16pm
If they had stuck with the subtle tones, and had the monster appear/make noises less, I think it would have been way better

Drownland2:17pm
The monster never really appears, it always blends in with the shadows
I think that's representative that it's all in her mind

Oriphiel2:17pm
In the stupid dream sequences, when it pops up like a jack in a box?
"Ta-Daaaa!"

Drownland2:17pm
Piss off those were great

Oriphiel2:18pm
Different strokes

Drownland2:18pm
Catches the weird disorienting nature of a nightmare

Oriphiel2:18pm
No way

Drownland2:18pm
I assume you've never had a nightmare then

Oriphiel2:18pm
>.>

Drownland2:18pm
Because it was spot on

Oriphiel2:18pm
Yes, I have never had any nightmares or bad dreams (/sarcasm)

Drownland2:18pm
I knew it

Oriphiel2:19pm
That's like saying "You didn't like that Western we just saw? **** you, you've never ridden a horse, have you?!"

Drownland2:19pm
But seriously when she's trying to crawl away from it in her dream and she can barely move
That's never happened to you?

Oriphiel2:19pm
Did you ever watch Buffy?

Drownland2:19pm
Just making the case that it's good at what it's trying to present
I watched the first half of the first season in high school
Found better things to do

Oriphiel2:20pm
Trust me, watch the episode called "Restless"

Drownland2:20pm
I'd love to stay and chat more on this but my grandparents just arrived. Gotta go see em

Oriphiel2:20pm
That episode captures dreams and nightmares perfectly
Bye! =D