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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth
this is a comedian that i like... i know most of you will hate him... thats whatever.
but he basically does **** where he alienates the audience a lot. and this was one of his bits. according to him he's not a real homophobe and doesn't believe this rhetoric, but when i listened to it some of it sounded pretty logical, if his facts are straight. i'm too lazy to double check all these random statistics... maybe somebody here has some insight.
i do see what i think are a few flaws with his logic here which i'll point out in another post. but for now i wanna see who can do the best job debunking him and who will just throw their arms up and have the predictable "i am outraged!!" type of half assed response.
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Originally Posted by Janszoon
The part where he talked about whether or not hubris was a contributing factor to the Kushite empire's loss of Egypt in the face of Assyrian aggression may have been erudite but I didn't find it especially funny. It wasn't particularly homophobic either though.
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Wow, really, a "few" flaws in his logic?
Wasn't particularly homophobic?
Wow.
Ok, off the top of my head:
- One article on the Advocate where ONE gay may writes about HIS opinion that people's HIV status should be kept private DOES NOT equal ALL gay men feel this way. In fact, it's the opposite. What IS true, however, is there is a general movement away from stigmatizing HIV positive people and helping them lead more positive and inclusive lives, considering that HIV is now a manageable disease and is no longer a death sentence (unlike what this guy apparently thinks).
- Pedophilia has NOTHING to do with homosexuality and EVERYTHING to do with the age of the victims.
- NO country in the world has successfully eradicated homophobia, including the Netherlands (which, btw, is not a model for anything really, considering the recent spike in xenophobia). So yes, mental health issues in homosexuals are definitely still related with the fact that heterosexual people NEVER have to deal with the fact of coming out and acceptance within their own families and social groups and gay people obviously do. Even in the most liberal societies, it's still a very difficult and often traumatizing process.
- gay men are not inherently more promiscuous than straight men, they just have more opportunities. Correct me if I'm wrong, but every straight guy wants to f*ck as many p*ssies as possible, but the feeling is usually not mutual. There are exceptions to the rule, and some women certainly have an equally pronounced sex drive as men, but generally it's not a balanced equation, hence, less sex for heterosexual men. If women felt the same way about sex as men do, trust me, straight men would be more promiscuous too.
- incidentally, having lots of sex is not a perversion. It's called having fun. Because sex is fun. As long as you keep it safe. Even that guy would be super happy if he could put his d*ck in a random p*ssy, if they'd let him.
Some gay or straight men and women, prefer to be single and have sex with random people, most men and women, gay or straight, prefer to be in stable relationships.
- again, the so called "patient zero" is one gay person and does NOT represent the entire, VERY varied community.
- the barebacking community is one MINOR section of the gay community. MOST gay men are not that reckless.
All, clearly, biased and hateful bullsh*t. I could do the same thing, pull out random facts about the heterosexual community and make generalized, hateful statements like, most serial killers are heterosexual, white and male, I guess that means ALL heterosexual white males are serial killers?? Crap.