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Originally Posted by Janszoon
It feels like one of the main thrusts of your comment here is bit of a strawman. It's simply untrue that "there's no real system" or "no precedent, no guideline and no expectations". I understand that those things aren't as regimented as you'd prefer them to be, but that doesn't mean they don't exist at all. We do have rules, and while we may cut people more slack on them than you like, we do enforce them. Our enforcement also follows a fairly predictable pattern of warning -> infraction -> ban. There is room for context but I think that's as it should be.
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I know there is a system of sorts here so what I was describing was a hypothetical situation ("if there is no precedent, no guideline and no expectations"). I didn't make that clear and I definitely should have. It's just when comparing things, it's easy and effective to discuss from the point of opposing extremes (total lack of system vs. full on system).
I do see you guys moderate the boards, moving discussions around and sometimes banning members like ghrwrathhrggfhr. Ultimately, I would like to discuss the topic without being negative towards the mod team because you deserve more pats on the back if anything and me and the members appreciate the work you do. It's just hard to discuss the details of moderation without arguing like you're putting down the current mod team and so for that I am sorry.
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Originally Posted by Trollheart
Yah but I don't care. I'm quite happy to be the whipping boy, as long as I know who it is that's doin' the whipping.
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This is why you're still here. If you hated it, you would have left. And for every person who can cope, maybe there are three that can't be bothered.
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Originally Posted by Trollheart
I would have to agree. I love this place but if it became stale and rigid like a military school or something I doubt I'd hang around. I would hope it wouldn't come to that; maybe I'd go back into hiding in my journals. But now that I've seen the bright lights, I'd wither like a hothouse flower back in there!
Yeah I agree. I'm all for quiet at home, but who's interested in a place where everyone quietly gets on with their threads on the internet? You need a bit of controversy, a bit of spice, a bit of danger and the odd knock-down argument to make it worthwhile. In other words, you need people like Batty.
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I am not for a rigid military school. I am for a low level buzz of exciting rule breaking. I know very well that the best mates are the ones you can joke around with and make fun of now and then. That's not really what I want to change around here.
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Tore, you didn't address my point about "objectionable material". How would you deal with that? I see the "single word post" has been by consensus agreed to be dropped, but what about this and my other point? I'd like to know what your answer is.
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I don't know without an example. Today, I think album covers are generally okay, even if there are some gruesome ones out there (either way, being music, they're on topic). But a thread with pictures from porn scenes wouldn't.
I'm not really hurt in any way by gore or pornography and the like, so this rule is not to protect people like me specifically. I suspect Advameg, the owners, wants a site they can "sell" to the outside world and this is better achieved if it is not full of "filth". If a new system was to be implemented, one of the first thing to do would have to be a complete reevaluation / reworking of the rules. I don't know in what state that rule would exist after that.