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Originally Posted by Oriphiel
Your review of Battle Hymns was kind of odd to me. I really don't mean any offense, but it seems like over half of it was just you apologizing for Manowar's lack of creativity and originality. It's almost like you're saying "Alright, these guys suck, but... they're kinda fun." Anyway, when it comes to this part...
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Not apologizing, just stating facts. Half of
Battle Hymns is a retread of what other bands had already done. I'm just giving my subjective opinion that for the most part, I'd rather listen to Manowar than Judas Priest and a lot of more pioneering bands.
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I don't know if I agree with that. From what I've heard so far, Manowar were indeed good at making relatively slow and intense songs with epic imagery and lyrics, without getting too Doom-y like the various Black Sabbath clones, and they also had some fun speed-metal tracks. However, there were plenty of bands achieving these sounds, even ten to fifteen years before Manowar, back in the late sixties and early seventies. Off the top of my head, Lucifer's Friend and Wicked Lady's sounds weren't too far off from what Manowar was doing, both with the slow/intense songs with epic lyrics and vivid imagery, as well as the speed-metal numbers (if you don't know who Wicked Lady was, go ask Unknown_Soldier  ).
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Gave those a listen, and while I'm sure Manowar drew influence from earlier bands -- no band completely reinvents the wheel after all -- those songs really only sounded superficially like anything off of Manowar's early albums. Can you really compare a song like "March for Revenge" off of
Into Glory Ride to any of those songs you posted? If so then you'd have to call Iron Maiden a shameless Judas Priest ripoff.