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Old 08-03-2015, 10:17 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by OccultHawk View Post
Trollheart,

I think you might be being a little unfairly dismissive of his answer.

Organized warfare didn't take place until King Sargon in Mesopotamia just 12,000 years ago. Maybe someone will post another example but it's something like that. Then you have all the non-human life on earth that also doesn't have warfare in the contemporary human sense. So with that short a time on the evolutionary scale doesn't it make sense that involvement in warfare is more something that is "soft-wired" or learned instead of something that's deeply embedded in our DNA? It seems like that's a fair answer to your question...
The whole "animals don't make war" trope is old and tired. JWB just pointed out the other day that male lions actively take over prides by killing or driving off the male, and then kill all of the cubs. Just because they don't do so with an M16 doesn't make it not warfare.

And just read this nice little article about chimpanzees waging war against rival groups.

NY Times: Chimps, Too, Wage War and Annex Rival Territory

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When the enemy is encountered, the patrol’s reaction depends on its assessment of the opposing force. If they seem to be outnumbered, members of the patrol will break file and bolt back to home territory. But if a single chimp has wandered into their path, they will attack. Enemy males will be held down, then bitten and battered to death. Females are usually let go, but their babies will be eaten.

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