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Old 08-15-2015, 04:26 PM   #145 (permalink)
William_the_Bloody
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i just dislike the dawkins-lead campaign to call being an argumentative twat 'militant atheism,' where as the militants of other religions are actual militants willing to resort to violence and/or the threat of violence in favor of the ideology in question....


but i think atheism was seen as a necessary component of communism, primarily because religion was seen as an ideological threat. communism (particularly in its totalitarian form) demands unquestionable loyalty to the state. religion introduces alternative priorities for people. it introduces its own ideological dogmas. dogmas which aren't your own are especially dangerous to a state that is reliant on its own dogmas to maintain unquestioning loyalty

hence chinese can actually be christians... they simply must attend state sanctioned christian churches. christians that attempt to stray from this path can find themselves in the laogai.

i don't know why you won't share the details of the story... based on your response about better a pussy than a fruit it sounds like you're worried about being thought of as crazy

shouldn't worry about that too much... people will think what people think. you should share it.
I never directly labeled Richard Dawkins as a militant atheist, though I believe he is, as he burns with the same religious fervor that a Baptist fundamentalists like Pat Robertson does. (Thankfully he's just far more rational)

Dawkins to me is a militant because he is a complete materialist who is out not to just discredit religion, but the belief in anything supernatural in general, ghosts, NDE, ect.

He is completely close minded on the issue and his little kabob of scientists have been known to mock and bully other well established scientists in the community for their beliefs in the probability of an afterlife. So militant yes.

As for "militant atheists" in regards to China, you bring up a good point in regards to atheism being an essential component to Communism. The fact that Christianity was brutally suppressed in the Soviet Union is proof of this, but today it is thriving under Putin's autocratic regime that is pretty much controlled by the ex KGB. Largely because it coincides with his ideological principles of European Conservative Nationalism.

Totalitarianism doesn't equate to atheism though, National Socialism was based on paganism and nature worship despite it's pseudo scientific Darwinian component.
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