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Originally Posted by The Batlord
1. I don't know why I put the Stooges self-titled album in blues rock, as Funhouse is both better and more bluesy. Definitely should be replaced. I'd put The Stooges somewhere in garage rock. Don't know what I'd take off though, since I've forgotten about half of those bands.
2. Is alternative rock even a useful genre descriptor? It's more an umbrella term. Indie rock too, but at least there's a stereotype for what it sounds like. Alt rock is just useless.
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A lot of what passed for grunge back in the day was just some form of alt rock that may or may not have been from Seattle. Grunge rock was really just slow-to-mid-paced down hardcore, heavy on the distortion (Nirvana, Tad, early Soundgarden, Melvins, Mudhoney).
Pearl Jam were a band formed by two ex-grunge band members who didn't want to play grunge anymore and just wanted to indulge their hard-on for classic rock. If anything, I'd actually call them a post-grunge band: they were moving past grunge, and they share FAR more musically in common with post-grunge bands than actual grunge ones. Same with Stone Temple Pilots. Not to mention Temple of the Dog.
I'm not going to argue with Soundgarden and Screaming Trees, since they were actual grunge bands, even if by Superunknown and Dust they were pretty much past or moving past that sound.
You also need to add Tad's 8-Way Santa. Considering how much you need to drop, that shouldn't be a problem, but if you insist on ignoring my vast wisdom, then I'd drop Temple of the Dog like a bad habit.
I started that thread in January and we've only covered half of the genres (literally 10 out of 20). I try to do 2 days per round, making a 10 album battle last 20 days at least. So it's going to go on well into next year, even if I shorten a few of the battles. And then of course there will be the final battle between all of the winning albums...
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1. I put Funhouse on Blues Rock, and I took off the Troggs for the Stooges. I just think The Troggs had "Wild Thing", and that was their only claim to fame. Plus, I can't even find a full edition of From Nowhere somewhere.
2. Take a band like Radiohead or The Smashing Pumpkins, who don't really fit into any other category. That's why Alternative Rock is a useful term.
3. This is kind of a controversial decision, as like the whole situation with punk, grunge vs. post-grunge is a time-based sort of thing. However, purely based on their sound, I've moved Ten and Purple over to the post-grunge list, and I moved Temple of the Dog and Superunknown to the Alternative Rock list, replacing the latter with Badmotorfinger. I swapped Dust for Uncle Anesthesia. And I put Tad on the list. Please inundate me with more suggestions. Also, I will actively look for more albums for this one, so we can close it up.
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Originally Posted by The Batlord
Suicide were around since '71 or '72 I believe, so they predate the **** out of no wave. And if they played guitars there wouldn't even be a question about them being proto-punk. I'd definitely dump Radio Birdman, Death, or the Heartbreakers for Suicide. I'm also sad at the loss of Pere Ubu for post-punk. Is The Idiot really a post-punk album?
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There self-titled album, however, was released in '77. Just sayin'. If everyone's in agreement about Suicide, however, I'll stick 'em on the list. And yes, The Idiot is definitely post-punk. Sorry. Keep Pere Ubu in mind for the Wild Card.
Something I just thought of: Do we want to call Days of the New II folk rock or post-grunge?