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Originally Posted by TechnicLePanther
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What? The only thing I found on that page that suggested what you're saying is...
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In the United Kingdom a hardcore scene eventually cropped up. Referred to under a number of names including "U.K. Hardcore", "UK 82", "second wave punk",[80] "real punk",[81] and "No Future punk",[82] it took the previous punk sound and added the incessant, heavy drumbeats and distorted guitar sound of New Wave of British Heavy Metal bands, especially Motörhead.
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...which is like, okay, whatever. I highly doubt the majority of UK hardcore bands really cared that much about what Saxon was doing. And Motorhead isn't even an NWOBHM band. They influenced the movement, but largely predated it.
That also only mentions
UK hardcore, and not hardcore in general.
And stop using Wikipedia as a source. It's **** when talking about musical influences. That passage was probably written by a clueless Motorhead fan.
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2. I was slightly wrong: All crossover thrash is both hardcore punk and thrash metal, but not all hardcore punk is crossover thrash. Either way, they're very similar. A band could call themselves one or the other, and pretty much no one would question it.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore_punk
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Correction: 99% of hardcore is not crossover thrash. Crossover specifically refers to hardcore bands that started taking in influences from thrash metal, and doesn't even include metal bands that took influence from hardcore (since that's what thrash metal is in the first place). I only included bands like Nuclear Assault and Vio-lence because I couldn't come up with more than a handful of legitimate crossover bands of note. A lot of people call those bands crossover, but that's really not accurate.
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3. I'm not sure how to interpret specifically what this means, but what I assume you may mean is that Noise Rock is not rock, and is in fact noise. Well, just like crossover thrash is a fusion genre, so is noise rock. Because of this, noise rock can be categorized as rock or noise, with some leaning more one way or the other.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_rock
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No, I mean that noise rock is a recognized form of rock music, and a highly influential and important one at that, so not including it is absurd.