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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre
Actually it does. Take Twiztid. They have grown in every single way. They use multiple syllables now, their delivery has gotten a lot better, their lyrics are a lot less corny and thought out much better. They have matured. They have gone from songs like '**** On The 1st Date' to 'All The Rest'. Their albums don't include nearly as many references to their genitalia nor things going into anuses.
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Haven't listened to all that much new Twiztid, but even as far as
Mutant,
Man's Myth, and
W.I.C.K.E.D., they sounded like a goofball group who'd been told by their fanbase that they were geniuses enough times that they'd started to believe it.
The results being musically as solid as usual, but actually cornier, cause now they were reaching beyond their limitations, defining them for all the world to hear in a way that they never did when they were just talking about their dicks.
Maybe their subsequent albums have matured to a point where they don't sound like goofballs trying too hard not to sound like goofballs, but I'm not going to hold my breath. Not that I care, since I don't go to Twiztid for maturity.
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ICP have become even more immature. They went from 'Nothing's Left' to 'Miricles'. Rarely do they ever put out anything that is as politically or socially reflective as their early work. The concept of their new project is find Jesus or you will forever be miserable. Their concept of their first project was taking the violence and carnage of the lower class and bringing it to the upper class so they can't ignore it.
A lot of the acts they inspired are usually just corny plagiarized versions of ICP.
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ICP's social lyrics were always ****. They took the class warfare of gangsta rap, and turned it into whiny wealth envy from a group who were just bitter that other people had things they didn't. I don't see any difference between
Carnival of Carnage and "Miracles", since they both stem from that same sense of bitterness toward people who had something they didn't, whether it be money or education.