Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

Of course I realize that, and admittedly I'm backtracking a bit to clarify but I still stand by my main point. I believe that if someone absolutely despises the first 5 minutes of MMM then there's nothing on the rest of the album that will change their mind. However a 5 minute chunk of Art Angels is going to be quite a bit different from any other 5 minute chunk you pick because imo it has a ton of variety in sounds, song structures, and melodies. So the idea I presented about judging the whole album based on a short sample applies to some albums but not others.

Originally Posted by DeadChannel

The overuse of babe/baby, the lack of any sort of discernible originality, the melodrama and the general sense of an especially heinous sort of hardcore vapid stupidity all make me want to jab my eyes out with a drill-press and then hang myself from the CN Tower with an electrified rope that sends shocks in excess of 10,000 volts through my body as I slowly die. While listening to Dream Theater.