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Originally Posted by Mister Jip
Twilight of his career? he never had a career because he screwed it up. I think he is disappointing because its obvious that he is a great rapper but he has never delivered to his full potential..when he first came out everyone thought he was the best. no one could touch him lyrically but then he ****ed around with LL and got blackballed and his career has never bounced back. If he was smart he would have just shut his mouth and let LL say whatever on the track. no one even knew LLs verse was about him anyway until he opened his mouth. he has had some great guest appearances but i don't rate any of his albums..and he always blames everyone else when his albums flop. The fact is he has mostly tried to base his career around dissing bigger name hip hop acts, riding on there coat tails to keep himself relevant but he has pretty much failed every time..even the link you posted was a dis to Jay -Z.
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The link was a playlist of a lot of his non-album stuff, remixes, and lesser-known tracks. I uploaded the Jay-Z diss by request.
I don't agree that Canibus has tried to make a career off the strength of dissing others...he used to be a genuine battle cat and to not diss people would be a denial to his origins as an artist. Everybody in the game has dissed somebody or another at some point so to hold that against him exclusively is kinda hypocritical if you're not holding it against everybody else just the same. But if that's how you feel--it's cool. I'm not here to impose my views on others but hope sharing provides an expanded perspective.
Back to your other points tho...a commercial album distributed my MCA/UNIVERSAL is how they treat blackballed artists?
LL is far from responsible for what happened to Canibus. He still hadda major-label record deal 2 YEARS (almost 3) after the LL beef. And for the record Canibus ate LL, it's subjective...from I'm pretty sure the majority of the battle cat community would agree by measure of a consensus of criteria, which I tend to agree with as far as what makes a good battle verse. "2nd Round KO" is a clinic on how to destroy another artist..."Ether" and "The Takeover" sounded like diss cuts from cub scout summer camps by comparison to the ferocity and level of intimate attacks illustrated in "2nd Round KO," don'tchu agree?
Yeah, did Canibus blame wyclef for the commercial failure of Can-I-Bus? YES! A resounding yes as it is in some of the skits on 2000 B.C.. BUT!!! That's Canibus' fault for believing the hype. It might have been a commercial failure but artistically I think Can-I-Bus is a monument to ingenuity...nigganometry? Get Retarded? Channel Zero?? They might not have had mainstream appeal in the wake of contemporary sounds like Jigga & DMX who were on the rise at the time. But c'mon, how many times you revisit It's Dark & Hell Is Hot now? Or Hard Knock Life vol. 2? I STILL listen to Can-I-Bus material...because it's still unique. Channel Zero alone paved the way for illuminati rap today, in my humble opinion. I don't think Can-I-Bus was a failure...I think people felt let down because they had mismanaged expectations and secondly were close-minded and couldn't appreciate something different but ingenious in its own rite. I was vicked by the hype too...but when I started listening to music more critically and independent of mass opinion and listened to Can-I-Bus again some years later--I fell in love with it. Maybe you might too after all this time?? If you haven't heard it since 1998, almost 2 decades ago...you might be in for a treat now.
I think, in fact, that Canibus defeated himself by subscribing to the hype that Can-I-Bus was a failure because everybody expected more of the same sound from the 1996-1997 mixtape circuit releases he had left in the wake of his rise...but it was so unique and that's what makes it stand out as an artistic success. His rhymes didn't suffer, they're still ingenious but they're on some different level 'cause he left a lotta bragadoccio out and started rhyming about conscious stuff like "Channel Zero" or "Special Forces" and "Buckingham Palace."
I mean, I'm not trying to sway your opinion...if you genuinely believe these things, I respect your right to do so but I hope you have considered all aspects of the equation here.
I am obviously biased towards Canibus but I keep it hunnid enough to admit that Canibus has made some jack moves and that he's released a lotta wack stuff...but that pales in comparison to 3/4 of his first albums and his lyrical tear in the mixtape/cameo circuit from 1996-2001. If you invent the a-bomb but also the furby...people should remember you for the a-bomb. Smell me??
I still respect your individual opinion even tho I may not agree with that and I hope this doesn't start some internet feud or you have static with me after this...
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