Originally Posted by chopinisawesome

If flatworms were conscious beings, we would probably be seeing somewhat advanced flatworm colonies or something. It seems pretty clear that they are not conscious beings. They work by instinct. However, humans are pretty clearly conscious.

But in general, this discussion is going nowhere for either side. I'm sick of it; it's stupid. Bye.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.