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Old 05-06-2016, 04:17 PM   #1110 (permalink)
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Thinking that 74 is old, but 68 is not has really got me scratching my head.
When you get there, you'll have a good laugh at that idea.
I have to assume that Hillary supporters won't be voting for her for a
second term when she's sworn in at 73 eh? This was the age of Sanders
when he started his campaign - when he was also "too old."

Sanders has such a famous history of getting so many things done thru
the building of coalitions that he's been given the name "The Amendment King."
Meanwhile, we'll have to deal with constant right-wing badgering of Clinton -
more so than the crap we had to put up with during her husband's reign.
It'll be CONSTANT - with media loving every minute of it. The reason that Sanders
has polled well ahead of Clinton against Trump is that people are very familiar -
on both sides - of how corrupt she is. Probably the worse that Trump can use
against Sanders is calling him some kind of Communist, blah blah... which will be
seen as the desperate attempt that it'll be, but the invectives used towards Clinton
are and will continue to be legion - and in some cases worthy!

Sanders DOES NOT want to "greatly...expand government spending"
and single-payer is NOT "twice as expensive" (where are you getting this?).
As for taxes, he wants the rich to pay their fair share - considering the fact
that they use more of the commons - and to not be hiding their wealth. Paying
your share of the commons worked great for America during our prosperous
years and it works great in the majority of democratic countries.

As for his party affiliation, he is one of the Independents - so what?
There's plenty of them the world-over, including here, and represent us just fine.
Hell, Washington was an Independent - he's kinda famous for getting things done,
dontcha think? Are you really voting for the Party, rather than the person?
Sanders, BTW, HAD to run as a Democrat because of the stranglehold of the two-party
system that you so love. You can't even debate on stage if you're anything but a D or R,
so, unfortunately he had to play the rigged game just to be seen on the same stage.

Also, as an aside: Reagan threw the Neocons out of his administration
because they were subverting his efforts to end the cold war with Gorbachev.
In other words, Hillary would probably have been thrown out of the Reagan
administration for being too right wing.

So forgive me if I find it disgusting: the fools the Dems are making of themselves
by turning down a rare opportunity to have a president who would represent them
while steering the country into saner territory, and instead nominate a corrupt Neocon
who will say anything she thinks Dems might want to hear, and then continue to promote
the fortunes of the world's rich. She has way more loyalty to Ukrainian oligarchs
than she does to any of the Dems. Congratulations Democratic Party.

I have no problem with differences of opinion,
but I do have a problem when they're not based on fact.


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