I think with metal, it's found its place as its own genre at this point. Especially when you consider how far removed a lot of the newer metal getting put out is. I think it comes down to the band really. Some are way too far removed from the genres roots in rock, while others are still lying somewhere on the line between hard rock and metal. But punk, I don't think the modern version of the genre is very far removed from its origins in rock.
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