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djchameleon · 08-08-2016, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey

It's as if you didn't see I was taking the piss with that comment. Duggan was a thug.

Ooooo that coded language. So just because he was a "thug" it's okay to kill him right? You might as well just say he was a nigger. Most of the time when news reporters toss around the "thug" word they are generally implying nigger

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Originally Posted by Goofle

Why are BLM against Israel? In fact, why are all of these Social Justice movements always against Israel and Pro-Palestine?

I've never really picked a side but I've always leaned more towards Palestine. After doing a quick google search/research I wouldn't change sides in the conflict. It makes perfect sense why you would be pro-Israel based off of your views.

In the following quote that I got from like the top google result. When they refer to "they", they are speaking about Palestine.

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They are (allegedly) the "third world" fighting "imperialists" - a cause many people will support no matter what kind of "imperialism" is being attacked, and with no thought to what kind of state the "third world" rebels are fighting to establish.
They are (allegedly) "non-whites" fighting "whites". The modern left, which is still in the racist world, cares primarily about crimes by "whites" or "people like us". It cares little about crimes by "non-whites". As I have argued elsewhere, this looks like anti-white racism, but is in fact just another form of anti-non-white racism, treating non-whites as if they are not adults responsible for their actions. Not criticising Palestinians or other "third world" or "non-white" peoples does not show how enlightened you are. It shows how racist you are.
Of course, to think of this conflict as "non-whites" versus "whites" is actually nonsense. Israelis comes from all over the world, including all over the Middle East (from which they were expelled), and including places like Ethiopia. But for racists the world over (which includes most of the western left), all Israelis are honorary "whites".

They are (allegedly) the "poor" fighting the "rich". The fact that it is their own fault that they are poor, and the fact that the Israelis deserve all of their wealth because they have worked hard to create it, is neither here nor there.
They are fighting against Jews - always a popular target throughout history. The world has not changed that much. Prejudices don't die overnight. After Auschwitz, the world should have changed forever. But it didn't.
If a second Holocaust ever happened, the world's reaction would be similar to the first one. If its Islamic enemies ever defeated Israel, and the Jews were being rounded up to be gassed in concentration camps, the entire Muslim world would cheer. The western left would explain how the Jews were responsible, for having generated such hatred. The EU and UN would hem and haw and do nothing. Only America and Britain and a few others would try to stop it. How can anyone doubt the above would be the case.

They are Muslim, giving them a sympathetic constituency of 1 billion people. Muslims tend to sympathise with Muslims engaged in conflict with non-Muslims worldwide. Christians aren't like this. For example, the genocide of Christians in the Sudan is generally a matter of indifference to western Christians, who are interested in other issues. See the silence of the Archbishop of Canterbury on the topic of the persecution of third world Christians.
If the Palestinians were Christian, nobody would support them. Certainly the Islamic world wouldn't. And if they were fundamentalist Christian, the western left would despise them - and probably even support the Israelis. But, for some reason, fundamentalist Islam is alright with the western left.

They are incredibly violent and barbaric, with savage attacks against the most defenceless of civilians, such as children. Due to the strange nature of humans, this gets them more support, not less. If they engaged in peaceful protest, nobody in the world would pay them much attention. But no one can ignore young people who suicide bomb restaurants and shoot toddlers.
The Palestinians are not the most oppressed people on the planet. Far from it. There are dozens of far more oppressed peoples and hundreds of more worthwhile causes in the world. What is special about the Palestinians is that they are the most violent and barbaric of all (allegedly) "oppressed" peoples on the planet. Hence - due to the strange nature of humans - they get more attention and more support worldwide.

They are fighting a democracy. A democracy gives open access to journalists and is a nice comfortable place for them to report from (good hotels, shops, restaurants, Internet access, etc.). Also, the journalist can attack the democracy in print as much as he likes without fear. By contrast, non-democracies allow little or no access, facilities are primitive and unpleasant, and journalists live in fear of arrest or even death. Hence, lots of journalists in Israel. Hardly any in the Sudan or North Korea. Hence, a war against a democracy will be covered in a lot more detail than a war against a non-democracy. Hence, the democracy will be criticised for its (minor) crimes a lot more than non-democracies committing really serious crimes. Israel gets more criticism than even countries that commit large-scale genocide.
They are fighting a democracy. A non-democracy would simply exterminate or ethnically cleanse them, and the conflict would soon come to an end and be forgotten by everyone except historians. Who in the world talks about the Armenians now? Or even Bangladesh or Biafra? Most young people have never even heard of these - just as Rwanda will soon be forgotten. But a democracy like Israel cannot simply exterminate its enemy and end the conflict. It has to be far more restrained, and so the conflict goes on and on for years.