I dunno about "lame" or weaksauce. They sure are tedious though. I just really like that kinda black metal and don't mind hearing the same riff 700 more times if it's badass, and their riffs a generally badass. I bet if they condensed their stuff way down and dropped the atmospherics you'd think they were the ****.
With that in mind you should listen to Odz Manouk
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