Originally Posted by EPOCH6

We're just going to have another 6 pages of "is it punk?" if we can't agree on at least a decent criteria for what makes a song pure punk.

How's this:

- Distortion
- High tempo, maybe ~160 BPM and up
- Disregard for traditional song structure elements (12-bars, boogies, and such)
- Disregard for professionalism (in production, presentation, content)

And how about we add:

- Must be pre-1976

Does anybody disagree that there's probably something that can be called "pure punk" prior to 1976?

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.