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Old 02-27-2017, 07:41 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I skimmed through the article. It seemed a little silly and jumped to quite a lot of conclusions but maybe it went deeper than I understood from a brief viewing. I'd like the list you mentioned, either in PM (I'd respond directly) or as a spoiler (my return would also come as a spoiler).
Sorry, busy weekend. These questions aren't strictly dispassionate, but I think they're generally fair. Will read through and respond to more of these when I have time.

Spoiler for questions:
1. Why do the President's priorities, and the priorities of the alt-right in general, seem to be focused on preventing people of color from entering the USA? You are more likely to be killed by a member of your own race, or to die in traffic than at the hands of a terrorist. If my perception is wrong, please explain how the "Muslim ban" is not a Muslim ban.

2. Immigrants displace unskilled manual labor, not skilled or unionized work. Why do modern conservatives see this as a bad thing? Why do conservatives oppose unions?

3. Phrases like 'All Lives Matter' and the MRA campaign seem to think that by focusing on one group of problems (disproportionate policing of minorities, gender inequality), you must ignore others. Do you agree with this sentiment? If so, why?

4. Conservatives dislike, rightfully so, to be painted with same brush. Fringe elements are not representative of the whole. Both sides are guilty of simplification, but as I'm asking the question, I'll focus on the one that matters to me: Do you believe that 'social justice' as a concept is bankrupt? Do you agree that white men have a privileged position in American society? If not, why? If so, how do you distinguish your position from that taken by so-called SJW's?

5. A common refrain from Trump supporters is to take the man "seriously, not literally". Do you believe Trump's unfamiliarity with governance or the importance of his language as POTUS is a pro or con? Why?


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How is this group relevant to a discussion about Donald Trump or any of the other things mentioned?
in reference to MRA, as Frownland astutely stated, it's a Venn Diagram that's more flush circle than small intersection. After all, the wage gap is "fake news", right? I brought MRA into this because, as I see it, it stems from the same white, male disaffection with the cultural and social changes over the last 30 years. Men, especially white men, have gone from masters of their demesne, to partners, subordinates, or excluded parties. Whether through choice, circumstance, cultural shift, etc., the hows don't matter as much as the reaction, which as far as I can tell, has been extremely negative. As a man working in the Oil and Gas industry, the amount of sexism I see is absolutely shocking. 95% occurs when the woman has left the room. And this in a place where women occupy 4 of 6 senior VP positions. Do MRA types have fair points? Sure. Custody is one of the very few areas where the sexism is reversed. It's not fair, it's not in the best interest of the child, and it's one of the artifacts of a patriarchal society... ironic, imo.
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