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Originally Posted by The Batlord
No, you rap over metal and it's nu metal. Or rap metal. Or whatever. Limp Bizkit and Rage Against the Machine, even if you want to say that they are somehow rap, are not magically not rock. Rap is a vocal style. And even if I bought into your idea, the rap vocals would be piggybacking on another genre's diversity, not creating it.
And if you want to talk about hip hop instrumentals, then you're really just saying that electronic music in general is the most diverse, since it can use any of the same instruments as any other genre, but has the limitless potential of synthesizers and computers. Even hip hop instrumentals evolved from electronic music.
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No, because I don't think too many people would call Slipknot rap. They have vocals that are kind of rappy, but not really. All those groups have had rap elements to their genre but at the end of the day they were still rock. Because that was not the focus of their music. Not every Limp Bizkit song is rapped. And even then Limp Bizkit has been considered rap music before. Even then, it's hard to even consider Limp Bizkit music.
For hip hop instrumentals, not all of them have to be sample based or digitally created. There is hip hop that uses live instruments. Like Kendrick Lamar live performances use a jazz band. Now, people aren't calling Kenny jazz music, he's considered hip hop. Twiztid has toured with a rock band playing their music live before and still been considered hip hop. Die Antwoord does **** with a live electronic DJ and they are still considered hip hop. Not only can hip hop directly borrow or take from any genre but there definitely are a diverse style of instrumentals that you listen to and think, "man, that's rap". Like Trap music. When you hear a trap beat you think, man, that **** is Trap. You never confuse trap beats for electronic music or anything else.