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Originally Posted by elphenor
I think it's funny I had to have an argument on here about the origins of Punk as a cultural movement starting in NY and not the UK because "no one cared about CBGB" when it's in our history textbooks
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And... here... we... go. I've already said at some point that punk would have just been an unlinked series of art rock scenes if not for the success of British punk, but I think it still bears saying that we wouldn't still be talking about punk to anywhere near the same degree if not for the Sex Pistols or The Clash.
But a hindsight view of punk from a college course that may or may not actually have its facts straight is not the best barometer.
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and like Devo is basically my case and point about the "post punk" distinction actually being arbitrary
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Obviously the distinction is arbitrary. If not for the British scene creating the punk stereotype there would quite possibly be no distinction in the first place. And I'd cite Peter Laughner as my case. Dude came out with Rocket from the Tombs and Pere Ubu at the same time as the first CBGB's bands after checking them out in New York and didn't need two or three years "evolve". Evolution was simply the desired result from all parties involved.