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Old 06-13-2017, 08:52 PM   #347 (permalink)
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Contextually one might read it as telling the Jews that if they kill a Muslim they're declaring war on allah and they'll be executed. Removed from that context, sure it sounds peaceful but it seems as cherry picked as any quote used to argue either side.
Well, I didn't read it exactly like that. It didn't mention anything about muslims, it only mentioned allah and his messenger. (What "his messenger" means in islam I am not sure. For the ancient Hebrews "God's messengers were either men or angels.) I think it is more than killing someone, it is about going against their religion by saying they are going against allah and his messenger.

I took it that whoever wrote the koran shows what the Jews believed in, that no one should kill anyone cause it's like killing everyone. It gave an exception to that "unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief." So it's stating no one should be killed for any reason, except those those who commit murder or spread mischief. Then it equates spreading mischief as "[waging] war against allah and his messenger."

Anyway 005.033 could be the very thing they use to justify killing people, e.g. the Charlie Hebdo incident.
  1. Agree with the Jews ("Whoever destroys a soul, it is considered as if he destroyed an entire world.")
  2. Show them a loop hole. (spreading mischief)
  3. Show how that loop hole will be used against them.
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