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Originally Posted by Qwertyy
yeah it exists im just saying its not as prominent as elph thinks it might be in modern hardcore
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It definitely isn't. Bands these days tend to go either poppy with some rawness or abrasive and dark. The in betweens I've mentioned for here are in the minority.
On another note, Ceremony probably my favorite regular modern hardcore band. I prefer that minor threat inspired style over beatdown inspired ones anyday.