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Old 10-10-2017, 10:34 AM   #7274 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Chula Vista View Post
2008 Election: Obama won 68% of the electoral vote and beat Romney by 9.5 million in the popular vote

2012 Electrion: Obama won 62% of the electoral vote and beat Romney by 5 million in the popular vote

2016 Election: Trump won 57% of the electoral vote but lost the popular vote by 3 million.

Can you explain in more than simple cliches how these 3 election results were "orchestrated" by the rich and powerful?

Why did the top want Obama, a candidate who ran on raises taxes for the rich, equal pay for women, affordable health care, raising the minimum wage, and tightening environmental regulations? None of which would seem desirable to the rich and powerful.

Why did the top want Trump, a candidate who ran on mostly snake oil and catch phrases, as well as basically promising to undo everything that Obama did. A possible third world war, restricted trade with China, and alienating our most powerful allies are things that would be negatives for the rich and powerful.

Because rich people have ideals just like we do, except they have the clout to make those ideals a reality. Obama promised the right things to the right people, and successfully funded his campaign. Looks like this time the conservatives were the ones who threw their money and promises around harder. Sometimes the liberals win, sometimes the republicans win, but either way, both benefit from this system where people are polarized between joining one side or the other.

My point isn't that there is some shadowy room in washington where rich people hang out and make decisions. Hardly. My point is that most of the wealthy in America are connected to either the liberals or the conservatives, and get richer off of their constituents. They benefit from funneling people into one of two sides.

Of course, as soon as someone expresses discontent with bipartisan politics, or suggests a system more similar to what Trollheart described is in place in Ireland, where people have more options, and there's more transparency with their local politicians and local issues, both the liberals and the conservatives get angry, and shame them into not supporting either side.
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