well, like i said before i wasnt directly involved with hoffas ban so I cant really say too much about it..what i will say is that a permanent ban as a first strike is pretty harsh in my opinion (edit: cuz i just read hookers saying it wasnt a perm so it doesnt apply) , unless they are here just to cause trouble. I would of given a week or two for the spam and a warning about creating new accounts..if they ignore the warning, and I catch them with a new account, then I will have their asses IP banned and chances are it wont be lifted. not by me anyways, and the mods have a pretty good understanding not to lift other mods bans. so if you or anyone else does happend to get banned at some point in time i wouldnt recommend ignoring a mod, instead if you think the ban was unjust or too extreme email one of us and it will get looked at although i cant promise you the outcome will change.
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