I'm pretty sure the Ramones considered themselves a rejection of rock or something stupid like that, I could be totally wrong, but they recorded a bunch of songs with distorted Chuck Berry riffs. I agree that punk is the ethos and style, but it's pretty much just marketing **** to teenagers like music has always done. As I get older, I tend to distance myself from the confines of "sub-genres" because that's really all it's about is marketing.
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