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Originally Posted by The Batlord
Well yeah, but if someone doesn't think something is music then it still isn't music to them. With a concept like music (or art itself) where its very existence is subjective (i.e. made up) you can't just say that something is objectively music. It's just music to those who hear it as music since that's all that music is. I can say that perhaps you're just being pretentious but it would be pretentious to think that my concept of music is inherently more valid than yours simply because it's my concept.
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Quality of music is subjective, concept of music is not. That would be like arguing that Dee wasn't played on guitar (that's me keeping it going).