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Old 05-31-2018, 01:00 PM   #109 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by elphenor View Post
I answered first that if you think the ends justifies the means, what you're justifying is still the morality of the action

your moral justification is the ends
Depends on the severity of the action. My seemingly frivolous Holocaust thread was about questioning whether or not you'd be willing to change your moral paradigm if it became clear that it was completely incompatible with reality. Not so much that you should potentially change what you think is moral, but that you should potentially be willing to go against your morality if the cost of sticking to your morality worsened the existence of humanity.

I don't see how murdering millions of people could ever be considered moral considering the effect on society and the direct-genocide-perpetrators of murdering millions of human beings, but if the end result would in the end outweigh the immediate horror then might it not be worth the sacrifice?
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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