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I tend to favor the side of Harris/Dillahunty, which basically equates morality to well being, which is not subjective.
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That’s Sam Harris and Matt Dillahunty (had to google- I thought we might be closer to Kant and Foucault). I’ve listened to those guys and I’ve read
Waking Up.
It seems like if morality equals well-being it’s going to be subjective depending on whose well-being.
For an atheist Harris gets pretty deep into woo when he starts up on enlightenment and meditation.
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Justification -> Moral determination -> Action.
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The justification part has to be loaded with subjective reasoning.
I don’t get how your ideas about this differ from elph’s or anyone’s really.
Sometimes I find your writing cryptic. I need **** spelled out to get it.