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Originally Posted by MicShazam
So experimental is unambitious avant-garde?
But you're probably right.
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I think that the experimental umbrella allows more to extrapolate on ideas. A group like Autechre might be pointing directly at Stockhausen for influence, but they're still pushing electronic music into different directions in timbre and perception.
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But it's a sliding scale, right? The way I always understood it was, that if it's truly atonal, then it's serial music - since that system was devised exactly to avoid favoring of any particular tonality over another. So I guess atonal just means that there's not any particular key that's clearly dominant, even if one can argue for leanings in various directions.
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More or less, but I think that once you slide the scale, you're starting to use the term incorrectly.