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Old 09-23-2018, 07:44 AM   #14633 (permalink)
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From what I'm seeing in the mainstream media there are many reasons to worry about the Kavanaugh nomination:-

i) Ford's allegations are given credence by her consistant requests for an FBI inquiry. Pleading for an official investigation is hardly the way to go if your story is bogus.

ii) Although the incident is a difficult-to-adjudicate he said/she said issue, Ford has named Mark Judge as a witness. This is also a strange thing to do if you're making the story up.

iii) Some people suggest that drunken teen antics shouldn't count for much, but as always in modern politics, the cover up can be as problematic as the crime. Kavanaugh is on record as stating that he never went to the party, even though the time and place have not been specified. Unless K lived like a monk at High School, that denial looks suspicious, "I don't know when that party didn't take place, but I wasn't there anyway."

iv) In the closest historical precedent, when Anita Hill made allegations against Clarence Thomas, as a matter of routine an FBI enquiry was immediately set up. Sen Orin Hatch (or was it Grassley?) said at the time, "It was a very right thing to do."

v) Grassley/Trump are refusing to open an investigation into the Kavanaugh/Ford allegation. Trump is quite falsley declaring that "That's not what the FBI do," despite the fact that (see above) it is.

vi) Grassley is refusing to have Mark Judge appear before the Judiciary Committee to tell his version of events under oath. Why?

vii) Despite stalling a previous Supreme Court nomination for ten months, the GOP are now complaining about days, even hours of delay. Grassley is giving Ford a bunch of tight, arbitary deadlines whose motive can only be a desperate rush to judgement rather than an honest investigation.

viii) Mitch McConnell has declared, without caveat, that Kavanaugh will be selected for the Supreme Court. This is not like saying he's innocent until proven guilty, which is a principle I'm sure we can all agree with. It's like saying he will be treated as innocent irrespective of what transpires during the Judicial Committee's questioning.
I) Getting the FBI involved is a delay tactic: even if they don't find anything, she would stick by her story because "that's how I remember it" and attribute any inconsistencies that they might find as her own memory not being accurate.

Regardless, it still achieves the goal of pushing back things enough to where it effects the mid-terms, and it's not the only thing we've seen. She's made excuses of why she has to have the hearing pushed further out "because I can't fly up there" even when she was made an offer where they would go down to her in California. So there's no doubt that she's stalling (as directed by her attorney). I'm curious as to why.

II) See my previous post: one of her own best friends doesn't remember it taking place. And she's the FOURTH person who is a potential named witness to say that.

III). The Anita Hill case was interesting, but not that effective a precedent for Kavanaugh. The evidence and circumstances were different as well. Unlike this case, there were also corroborating witnesses.

V) See my comments on delay tactics. The FBI could investigate, but Feinstein holding onto a letter from Ford for several months and other Democrats not even submitting questions to Kavanaugh about it during the hearing process makes it seem as though the accusation wasn't seen as credible by Feinstein or whoever else knew about Ford prior to these hearings. (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...mation-hearing).

VI) I think Judge should be subpoena'd, but he's also one of four witnesses who have all said the event either didn't happen or they don't remember it. You can argue about his motivations, but what are the excuses for the other three?

VII) It isn't arbitrary. These allegations were brought up after after THOUSANDS of questions and hours sitting in public hearings and other things have passed. The timing is impeccable. And it has been proven that Feinstein knew Ford's identity but didn't believe the allegations were credible. They were only brought forward because they literally have nothing else they can use to prevent his confirmation.

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