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adidasss · 10-18-2018, 01:17 AM

It has been mentioned here already but considering that it is one of the biggest ongoing stories of this year, it could be useful to have a separate thread dedicated to it.

I myself am totally fascinated by all of this. Not so much because of what [probably] happened, as grizzly as it apparently was, since horrible things happen to people all the time, but just by the sheer arrogance of how it happened.

Saudi Arabia, because the rest of the world led it to believe this, was under the impression that they could literally do whatever they wanted, with impunity, including kidnapping and murdering a prominent critic in their own embassy [supposedly yeah].

But what is more surprising to me right now is that the collective powers that be haven't managed to effectively cover up this situation, which is what I presume happens normally in cases like this.

There is so much at stake here, and the situation is so complicated, it's difficult to unravel:

1) Why is Turkey allowing the details from the investigation to surface? Isn't it in their interest to continue shmoozing with the Saudis? They don't seem clear about it themselves, first they blow up the story, now they seem to be much more reticent.

2) If the full details of what happened do come out, and the evidence points to Riyadh, is the US (and Europe) willing to sacrifice all of those lucrative oil and weapons deals for one man?

3) Why this man? As was correctly pointed out by the Guardian, Saudi Arabia has done many terrible things in the past few decades, just recently they blew up a truck load of children in Yemen and are driving more than 15 million people to the brink of starvation, what's different now?

4) If the Saudis wanted this man dead, why on earth wait for him to come to the embassy where it's much harder to cover up your tracks? Why not just murder him in his house, on his way to somewhere, what was the reason? Sloppiness or a message (that ended up backfiring)?

Bonus question: Will there ever be a point in our lives when Saudi Arabia is going to fall out of favor of the West and be treated in the same way as Iran and North Korea (as they rightfully should)?

10-18-2018, 01:17 AM	#1 (permalink)
adidasss Slavic gay sauce Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 7,993	The Jamal Khashoggi case It has been mentioned here already but considering that it is one of the biggest ongoing stories of this year, it could be useful to have a separate thread dedicated to it. I myself am totally fascinated by all of this. Not so much because of what [probably] happened, as grizzly as it apparently was, since horrible things happen to people all the time, but just by the sheer arrogance of how it happened. Saudi Arabia, because the rest of the world led it to believe this, was under the impression that they could literally do whatever they wanted, with impunity, including kidnapping and murdering a prominent critic in their own embassy [supposedly yeah]. But what is more surprising to me right now is that the collective powers that be haven't managed to effectively cover up this situation, which is what I presume happens normally in cases like this. There is so much at stake here, and the situation is so complicated, it's difficult to unravel: 1) Why is Turkey allowing the details from the investigation to surface? Isn't it in their interest to continue shmoozing with the Saudis? They don't seem clear about it themselves, first they blow up the story, now they seem to be much more reticent. 2) If the full details of what happened do come out, and the evidence points to Riyadh, is the US (and Europe) willing to sacrifice all of those lucrative oil and weapons deals for one man? 3) Why this man? As was correctly pointed out by the Guardian, Saudi Arabia has done many terrible things in the past few decades, just recently they blew up a truck load of children in Yemen and are driving more than 15 million people to the brink of starvation, what's different now? 4) If the Saudis wanted this man dead, why on earth wait for him to come to the embassy where it's much harder to cover up your tracks? Why not just murder him in his house, on his way to somewhere, what was the reason? Sloppiness or a message (that ended up backfiring)? Bonus question: Will there ever be a point in our lives when Saudi Arabia is going to fall out of favor of the West and be treated in the same way as Iran and North Korea (as they rightfully should)? __________________ “Think of what a paradise this world would be if men were kind and wise.” - Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle. Last.fm