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Old 02-07-2019, 10:40 AM   #1166 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls View Post
I think its a stupid topic and insignificant in the analysis of race relations and distribution of wealth. Seems like youre grasping at straws to find problems that dont exist to feel guilty about.
The specificity of the music is problematic for me insofar that I'm largely ignorant of it, and maybe a few others here—though as this is a music forum I joined less than 24 hours ago, I might be surprised.

He sets up two possibilities, each with an issue:

If this "horrorcore" is based on black music, it'd constitute derivation, which which could lead to charges of cultural appropriation. The thing about that is I have little, if any, problem with such, though I think those who borrow should be up front about it—at least from a moral and ethical if not quite legal basis—though in our litigious society such might be difficult.

His other possibility is that it isn't, which though I haven't heard the music, save for Eminem, I find it hard to believe. Unless it's classical, some kind of European ethnic, or aboriginal, it probably has some black in it—particularly Eminem—even the speech and phrases—know what I'm saying?

though in his case, Eminem might be part of that black culture however white—though even then, his white skin might afford him a few privileges with people like the cops.

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Originally Posted by MicShazam View Post
I know nothing about hip hop, so I just took an artist that used to be big back when I still got exposed to this kind of music. Eminem still makes albums, I know that much. I don't know if anyone still cares.
Aside from his hits in the very late 1990s/very early 00s, I tended to ignore him, or at least tried to. Perhaps wrongly I considered his music to be mysgynistic, homophobic, and him—if I understood correctly—whining about he hated his ex- and mother. His obsession with Britney and Christina to be stupid and I like Moby.

His big political song in 2004 came too late to affect Dubya's re-election; however I heard his thing about Trump and I kinda liked it—though it too is a bit late. Trump will win in 2020—I don't like the prospect, but it seems to be a new American tradition-of-sorts to re-elect incumbents as presidents—that and Warren not apologizing for her own borrowing of aboringinal culture and officially posing as one years ago.

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Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg View Post
yeah buddy

Thanks. It's a little over an hour so I'll put that on hold for a while, though listening to parts of it for perhaps 10 seconds—yeah, it's black.

Indeed, as I think of it, the use of the word "posse" is itself kinda black: I know it's Latin, but the use in this context is somewhat, perhaps mostly, black.
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