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Originally Posted by Northwinds
Here's a great quote by David Crosby ...
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It's an old argument that doesn't answer all of the concerns.
While there are sexist types who oppose women's right to their bodies—including contraception, there is the question if the pre-born are sentient. What is the difference between killing a late fetus and newborn baby?
I've argued this a bit in another forum. I'd link to them were it not in violation of this site's rules against linking to pornographic material. While it's arguably a forum of an erotica, not porn, site, the tolerance levels at this site are somewhat low. I don't blame the mods as much as Google's cowardice.
(my bold, and she responding to a specific guy (i.e. SpeareChucker))
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Originally Posted by adrina
I have never said men have no voice in the debate. But then you have never had any problem mischaracterizing reality to suit your interpretations. The problem is that when men focus on the philosophical aspect of abortion they leave out the very pertinent and almost all consuming physical and medical aspects of abortion and pregnancy.
Men who account for these two very important aspects tend to have a more well-rounded, logical and fact-based perspective. those who insist on trying to tie abortion to their religious or moral beliefs flounder simply because there is no one consistent morality across humanity.
ETA... That can be said of both men and women actually.
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Originally Posted by Northwinds
"I think Religion is absolute nonsense. It’s fairy-tales.”
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another old position; nor does religion as a whole necessitate a particular position in the abortion issue or for that matter pretty well anything in politics. Communist countries such as Romania before 1989 made abortion difficult, whereas, I believe, in Japan, they have shrines where women can commemorate the souls of the fetuses they aborted.